Eddie Included hotfix to prevent crashes in Camp McCarran Concourse under specific circumstances. Log in to view your list of favourite games. The easiest way to do this is to kill Powder Gangers who can see through disguises (Dawes, Carter, Hannigan, bodyguards, etc), and stealthily kill all other Powder Gangers (Not necessary to kill Meyers). Killing him (and/or the other Powder Gangers with him) will not cause any reputation loss with the Powder Gangers, and his "crew" may not turn hostile if Chavez is killed in front of them. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Install hundreds of mods with the click of a button. Didnt do that, I fixed it with another mod so I got a perk every time I leveled up. Recently I was purging the correctional facility of the Powder Gangers, and while I was doing that I took supplies from a medical box on the wall. The Karma system is , best to just ignore it because the way it works Robin Hood would be the ultimate badguy and some psycho who murders everyone would have good karma. Personally I didn't know that there was any other option but to kill them all when I first played the game, I kept thinking "damn this is a hard mission for being so early in the game" as I had to use all of my ammo and dynamites to get them down. Then, every time one wants to talk to Eddie, run in and talk to him before he has a chance to get up. Powder gangers shoot me at sight in NCR correctional facility By doing this it is also possible to gain the rewards for helping Eddie (300 XP instead of the normal 200), only become shunned (Powder Ganger camps will not attack the player character) by the Powder Gangers (. Faction armour cannot fool everybody. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Some are helpful, some are annoying, and some only exist in your heart. If the dialogue option doesn't appear, ask to see his shop inventory first. Site news (important news will be issued), Comments on your files, images and videos, New images and videos added to your files. As a result, Powder Ganger raids on caravans became an unfortunate fact of life in the. One may need to remove and then put the Powder Gangers faction armor back on to reset rep back to neutral, and also wait around until they no longer sense the player character, so they no longer appear as hostile. Close . A large contingent of Powder Gangers can be found in Vault 19, under the leadership of Samuel Cooke, although there they are identified as escaped convicts. A new reformist Powder Ganger faction based in Westside, Faction presence increases as the player does quests for them, including a new store and patrols, Ties into the vanilla reputation system without locking out players. Indeed, you'll need at least a 25 Explosives rating to convince him you're worthy of his explosives, so if you don't have that, then don't expect to get the goods. This author has not provided any additional notes regarding file permissions. (4) Return to Ringo when you're ready for the gunfight with the Powder Gangers. Killing Eddie prior to that point will create a mission failure. Added NPC textures, to fix the NPC Head-Body mismatch bug (thanks to laserblood for providing a fix). But there is something weird here. . Then, seek out a bed or use some medicine to heal yourself up before you go about your business, in whatever manner you choose. It wont in the long run. He will say that the NCR is already here, and tell the player character to feel free to kill some of them on the way out. It is possible to talk to Eddie without a Stealth Boy, even if one is vilified by the Powder Gangers. Technical Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61592/, https://fallout-archive.fandom.com/wiki/JSawyer, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/59470/, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66016, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38897, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34994, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37546, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34784, (https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50810). This is a textbook example of why modding FO3 & mentions of it on these forums is relevant to this day. (Optional) Betray Eddie by offering Lieutenant Hayes assistance in retaking the Prison. Powder Gangers | Fallout Wiki | Fandom Due to their hostility, the Powder Gangers have little to no friendly relations with outside groups. You'll need to have a Barter skill of 25 or higher to get him involved in the fight against Cobb and his men. Just had the same issue having _Idolized_ reputation with Powder Gangers. Waited a bit and went back and everything was fine. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. Samuel Cooke It appears that Ringo and Joe are going to come to blows soon, and obviously, you're going to be able to get involved. (5) Join up with Sunny. The only thing I could possibly think is maybe that completing Ghost Town Gunfight is coded to always have them hate you, even at Idolized Rep, but I don't think that's a thing. Thanks for the quick response. The situation worsened when the Powder Gangers stole Sloan's dynamite supply, shutting down Quarry Junction and inadvertently unleashing deathclaws on the quarry and the highway. Fallout: New Vegas. Probably has something to do with the game being shipped after less than 2 years in production lol. The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Reworked scripting for Mojave Prison Blues so that it no longer directly edits I Fought The Law. Need Help With Powder Gangers at NCRCF :: Fallout: New Vegas General The smaller groups of Powder Gangers are all lead by a strong or cunning underboss, like Joe Cobb. It only changes depending on if you helped or betrayed Eddie during the NCRCF questline. After stepping out into the darkness, I made a decision, kind of a big one. There is also the ability to recruit Victor to assist and this lightens the load further. Powder gangers shoot me at sight in NCR correctional facility. What happened is: Guards can recognize you even if you're wearing faction armor, so that's why Dawes goes hostile. They carry single shotguns, 9mm pistols, varmint rifles and .357 Magnum revolvers. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMrlNpx319ATwitter: https://twitter.com/mittensquadCan You Beat Fallout: New Vegas By Killing Everyone? Better yet, if your Medicine skill is at least a 25, you can do some further convincing to acquire a couple of Doctor's Bags as well. What do I miss by killing the Powder Gangers? - RPGnet Forums Though a few managed to erase their pasts, most never survived the journey. Technically you still can do the vault powder gangers quest. You kids arent gonna know what Im talking about, but I printed out a list of every named NPC in New Vegas onto paper and stapled it into a bundle of paper thatd been stapled together by someone with a stapler. [7] Eventually, the gangers established a sizable presence outside the prison, with a ring of camps around it, focused on raiding caravans that tried to push through to Vegas and launch attacks to terrorize the local towns of Goodsprings, Sloan and Primm. Locations after he is dealt with, return to Eddie and let him know Chavez is handled to gain Powder Gangers fame +1. This quest is a reference to the song of the same name by Sonny Curtis & the Crickets, more famously covered by the Bobby Fuller Four in 1965. - More Troopers and more powder gangers at the NCRCF. There's no way around that. Why Can't We Be Friends? | Fallout Wiki | Fandom - fallout.fandom.com Between Ringo, Sunny and yourself, you should be just fine getting through this fiasco. [1], However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River against the warden's objections. Fear the Reaper is, from what my beautifully marbled brain understood it to mean, supposed to give you a perk every level at the cost of your health dropping to 10% when you level up. Why do I lose Karma by stealing from Powder Gangers? :: Fallout: New : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4GfoqI2-0Can You Beat Fallout 4 Without A Pip-Boy? Then theres the foolproof approach that I created by myself. This game was very rushed and karma was just one of the things they didn't get to implement or cut. Fallout: New Vegas - Ending Slide 23: Powder Gangers - NCRCF Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. I got some Ganger armour, killed the guy at the door and then left. So, suit yourself. If one instead chooses to betray Eddie to the NCR, one can choose the dialogue path with Lt. Hayes to offer assistance in the assault. yes, he won the lottery : r/falloutnewvegas However, if the player character uses the above method, all the NCR troopers inside the administration center will be hostile to them from that point on (even days or weeks later) if they ever enter the area without an NCR faction disguise equipped. Locations You don't need the Powder Gangers' help to steal everything in Goodsprings that isn't nailed down, and you benefit from keeping the doctor and shopkeeper alive so that you can get medical care and buy ammo. One will gain Powder Gangers fame +12. Convince Philip Lem or Samuel Cooke to ally with the Great Khans. Eddie New quests and weapons that are accessible even if the vanilla Powder Gangers already hate your guts! Many remain in the prison and have been raiding surrounding areas under the leadership of Eddie. (6) Defeat the Powder Gangers. The Powder Gangers are one of the most gutted factions in the game everyone knows that, so I decided to polish them a little bit and add in some more flavor to their quests. NCR Correctional Facility All rights reserved. Doing so ends the mod questline early and is mostly included for RP purposes. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. The Prospector's Den quest marker updates after talking to Ian. Editor ID ], Nipton terminal entries; Mayor Steyn's terminal, Testing, Q&A session with Josh Sawyer during a live charity stream. Even with neutral reputation some PG attack me on sight. Several lines that were meant to fire once but didn't have been patched. You'll need a Speech or Sneak skill of 25 in order to convince her, or you she simply won't get involved in this battle. There are several ways to go about this. VMS02 Player can side with Eddie in Mojave Prison Blues. Fallout New Vegas TIPS: - The Tech Game Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Added lip sync to some lines missing it. [11] The Brotherhood of Steel dislike them due to interfering with patrols near and in Hidden Valley. For the Powder Ganger character, see, Do not kill Eddie and complete the endgame quest. There will be approximately eight of them to fight. Casting Call Voice ActorsCDO947214: Ellis Dufresne, Mole Rat Richard, The Mad MinotaurCellBlockPsycho: Ramirez, Greavessamlikesva: TNT TimboTenwise: Whitmeyer, Ian, Krieger, LyleJudah K: Chuy, Floyd, Field Commander 1 & 2, Med Officer Kristoffiamriverrose: Eyeteeth, Rosettarosewaterwinter: Officer Nguyen, Doc RosalindOther CreditsExploding spear mesh used with permission from Ranaark's Thundersticks.Big Earner switchblade uses a modified texture from AgeofEvolutionHQ.The code used to free crucified Powder Gangers was based off of void_gazer's Decrucifixion.The Steakmaker shotgun's concept and original texture used with permission from furrden2. there is a mod on nexus that might help you. Nash will provide the information for: Hayes will only tell the player character that military orders are classified, unless they already know - either by pickpocketing the "Military orders" off him, and/or by getting the information from Nash first. Philip LemJoe CobbChavez (2) Return to Ringo and let him know that Sunny Smiles has agreed to help you fight the Powder Finally, go back and visit with your old friend Doc Mitchell. So, let's get to it. 9 Intelligence for points when leveling up, Luck for critical shots and the casino if necessary, charisma is a dump, speech is for nerds, and the rest are spread out evenly. Log in to view your list of favourite games. Destroy ONLY the sulfur deposits below Vault 19 and convince. Though I kill everyone of them save for Boxcars(felt bad for him). V19 guys just wanted me to clear out some geckos in the lower level. The first thing we need to come to an understanding of is what constitutes killing everyone? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0GamZYQwvACan You Beat Skyrim With Only A Fork? I think you can still help Boxcars, too. Your best bet is to take refuge behind the cart in front of the Prospector Saloon, which should guard you pretty well against the gunfire from the Powder Gangers. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. Overview As soon as the powder ganger in the bar makes his threat to the woman, it's the strangest thing, but his head explodes. Doing so caused me to lose karma. I'm somewhat relieved that isn't the case. I took Goodsprings side against the Powder Gangers, and now I want to help the NCR take back the prison but apparently you need to help the Powder Gangers in order to unlock. Job letters in HQ disable after their relevant quest is finished. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? There will be cake. MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. Hi everyone. There are no special requirements to recruit him. In the distant past, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female prison. Share. Added lines to Ramirez during Mojave Prison Blues to tell him of Eddie's death. In particular, a number of incomplete topics would have allowed the Courier to offer suggestions as to how Eddie could better defend the facility, including posting more guards and placing snipers on the guard towers. The second task is to "deal with" a suspicious traveling merchant residing at Jean Sky Diving. Then wear a uniform and start the mission. He is the man sitting behind the desk on the second floor, surrounded by guards. New unique missile launcher: Expedita. Also reduced number of hostile raiders in the finale by 25%. (in text form)Well get to the funky in a minute. Leaders Powder Gangers reputation (SOLVED) :: Fallout: New Vegas General Like Sunny, Doc will be easy enough to convince. Let the melee weapon-wielding enemies come towards the cart and deal with them at close range. Moralistic answer: Stealing from thieves means you aren't any better than they are. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. He will tell the player character to rendezvous with Sergeant Lee, located just to the south east of the prison (on a hill, approximately in line between Powder Ganger camp south and the prison). Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44888/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fnewvegas%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D44888&pUp=1. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. Copyright 2023 Robin Scott. Discount medical supplies are now added to Chet upon taking the relevant quest, preventing conflicts with mods that edit his inventory. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings Talking to him without being able to pass the speech skill will result in combat. Members The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281. Here's a quick tip for anyone playing in 2020 who finds themselves vilified with Powder Gangers before they can take a quest from Eddie (as I did and spent an hour looking for a solution). Working on the Chain Gang - A Powder Ganger Quest Mod. Once information has been acquired, one can either report back to Eddie or betray him to Lt. Hayes, and help the NCR take back the prison. The Mad Minotaur can now only be spawned during his quest. I Fought the Law | Fallout Wiki | Fandom A couple of them have nothing more than melee weapons, and will thus rush your position from the outset of the battle. They are hated by both the NCR, whom they were former prisoners of, and Caesar's Legion, due to their harassment of Legion raiding parties. If he becomes hostile when approached after his guards are dead, try running quickly at him and repeatedly trying to talk. Commenting on the differences between the Fallout: New Vegas Powder Gangers and the 215 Rail Line Powder Gang, Joshua Sawyer stated that the Van Buren faction had much more developed characters and were to play a larger role, while in Fallout: New Vegas, their focus in the game was greatly diminished.[17]. Removed a good amount of unused space in the Westside headquarters. Wielded by Silva himself. Most Powder Gangers at the Correctional Facility fled into the wasteland rather than face the advancing forces of the Legion. Happens every time. Technical These are the consequences for doing so. It's likely that Sunny will take cover near you. One can also try to sneak behind the computer on his desk and back away. However some members who have moved further away from the prison, such as those found at Whittaker farmstead, are significantly better armed, sometimes equipped with laser or plasma rifles. Well, if they want rampage, I will give it to them! Battle For The NCRCF - Powder Ganger Overhaul - Fallout New Vegas Eddie's Emissary They've been nothing but trouble for us - why would we want one of them anywhere in an official capacity? Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Powder Ganger Overhaul at Fallout New Vegas - mods and community However, even in Nipton before the massacre, the group visited opposite the NCR, the troopers at night, and gang members during the day, to avoid conflict. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_YouEyeballingMe.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_Trudy_ProblemIs.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_GotAPresentForYou.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_YoullPayFor.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_NeverGetsOld.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_AnyLawman.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_RunningLowOnSmokes.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_1.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_2.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_3.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_4.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_1.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_2.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_3.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_4.ogg, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries; Warden's terminal, [Guard transfers to the east. Indeed, you'll find many of the decisions you make in the game to meander towards similar this-or-that scenarios. However, they also have a large arsenal of guns; some stolen, others looted from dead NCRCF guards. Fallout: New Vegas Once outside, Sunny and Ringo will make a break for the Prospector Saloon. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36219/. I didnt help anyone, btw i helped ncr to protect primm so im done with primm rn, thanks for the tip again. Requirements. Copyright 2023 Black Tree Gaming Ltd. All rights reserved. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVBrUXGpWkCan You Beat Fallout 3 as a Baby? The slightly longer answer would be that you obviously can't do any quests given by the Powder Gangers now. [1][4], Under the leadership of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. I had this problem but didn't do the quest. I am wondering if this is a bug or if its something normal. Using this technique, one can get rid of every Powder Ganger at the NCR Correctional Facility except for Eddie and Meyers. Upon initiating dialogue with him, he will give the player character a short "briefing," and the assault will begin. Then again I was very new to fallout when first played so my mistake. Though Powder Gangers almost all have Evil Karma, the larger Powder Ganger faction is not marked as Evil. Changes the Powder Gangers outfits to look a little bit better. Unfortunately, in our playthrough, we didn't have a 25 in either category, but you may be different. 1K. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Ghost Town Gunfight - Fallout: New Vegas Wiki Guide - IGN Patched initial quest to prevent accidental lockout, and fixed its check only working if the player had exactly one leather armor. for the weapon itself. (Hopefully) Made it so Carter and Hannigan despawn from NCRCF appropriately if recruited into Dufresne's gang. Theres the kill everyone you see route where you look down at the ground everywhere like a sad loser who doesnt know to point his giant nose proudly towards the horizon like a sentient sundial, but thats boring. Since you're already in the Prospector Saloon, staying put and speaking with Trudy behind the bar is probably going to be your first order of business. Those traits are from a mod. The bounty hunter may attack even after he is convinced to leave, even if one is not dressed as a Powder Ganger. Valve Corporation. 0008D0E3. [1] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. use a stealth boy and pick pocket the keys from the guard then talk to the sherif then hi tail your ass outta there. Those brave or foolish to remain were killed or crucified by the merciless Legionaries. H.., Fallout: New Vegas PlayStation 3 Report back to Eddie and get your assignment. That's NCR Correctional Facility. If one has low Intelligence when reporting to Eddie after dealing with the bounty hunter, the player character will say "I got rid of the bunny hunter.". One can try to shake him down for a "toll" (30 Speech required). It won't. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . A number of cut and partially completed dialogue options exist which point towards the final portion of the quest having had additional options for helping out. All rights reserved. When you're done at Doc Mitchell's house, you can visit Victor at his shack and get some extra fire power added to the fight for minor effort. Obviously, VATS will be a huge help here, but if you're out of action points, you'll need to resort to some old-fashioned first-person action to get the job done. The second person on your list should be Chet at the general store directly next to the Prospector Saloon. She'll give you three optional tasks to try to get some other people involved. Any point to helping powder gangers? *spoilers* - Fallout: New Vegas A couple of notes have been added for general lore purposes. Ramirez and Timbo have had their volume boosted. Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. Only much later did I realize you can actually just talk to them. Quest chain Powder Gangers: 00101F42: Vipers: 0015F16E: Primm residents: 000D7F56: The Strip: 00140A88: Tops Casino (Chairmen) 00117508: White Glove Society: 00116F10: Van Graffs . Reduced Powder Ganger NPC count in North Vegas and Westside. Talk to Eddie and ask if he has any work. If the player character gets to him before he stands up, he will talk to them. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Killing the prison/wasteland powdergangers didn't make the vault 19 powder gangers attack me on site. Appearances FEATURES. Powder Gangers appear in Fallout: New Vegas. However, these are entirely optional side quests, so it's not that big a deal. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background powder gangers keep attacking me even with uniform - Fallout: New Vegas Marked several NPC corpses as Quest Items, preventing them from despawning on cell reset. Organizations